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markbigears
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| 19 Oct 2010 11:20 PM |
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Hi Al, I was looking at this thinking it might be a nice sign for my motoring collection, but then saw that the price stayed low, which rang a bell... whats the deal with this one then? Regards, Mark |
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banjo boy
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| 20 Oct 2010 04:24 PM |
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"WOW"...£570 AN A DAY LEFT..MAKES YOU THINK DONT IT. |
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langcat
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| 20 Oct 2010 06:44 PM |
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Let me see some hands! Who thinks this is a repro?
I say yes. |
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Lummox
The Tatfather
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| 20 Oct 2010 06:50 PM |
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Mark
See that ' roadway ' running up the reverse thats a big giveaway of modern manufacture on a rack, def. one to be avoided !!
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Griffon65
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| 20 Oct 2010 07:01 PM |
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Hi all,
I agree with Lummox, my money is on a copy, admittedly a very good copy and very well aged.
The roadway/firing marks on the back plus the screw hole being to far into the sign are a good indication of a copy. |
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markbigears
Mad Keen Collector
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| 20 Oct 2010 07:18 PM |
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thanks Lummox for that info, really appreciate it knowing a bit more on enamels. when was the racking method adopted, as a few of my 50's signs that I know are the real deal, have 2 "unbroken" lines on the backs.
Someone is going to be really disappointed at the price it now stands at.
I wonder what the price is going to be when the hammer drops? |
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rusty-signs
Mad Keen Collector
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| 20 Oct 2010 07:23 PM |
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Was this design ever a "real" period sign? |
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Lummox
The Tatfather
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| 20 Oct 2010 07:55 PM |
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Mark
It is generally accepted that many signs ( genuine ) were made in India from the 30's to possibly as late as the 50's advertising products including many British ones still sold almost as a hangover from British Colonial heydays.
The problem arises with ' later ' pieces still made by the same procedures some of which are probably made in the same factories. We had a big debate on the old site about a seller using Kempton market, ebay, and a Berkshire auction house to sell his ' old ' ? signs
These were coming from a ' storage warehouse somewhere in Devon. All sounds doubtful but its true. Seen him once or twice this year at Kempton.
Some make you doubt your own judgement ? but when you really look you do know although the hunt for a bargain can cloud your judgement.
My best advice personally is.............If you are in any doubt whatsoever leave well alone. Better to pay a fair price to someone you trust & can find you a few bits you want than do £500, £600 plus on something that turns out to be a bit of old ( new ! ) tat
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markbigears
Mad Keen Collector
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| 20 Oct 2010 08:44 PM |
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cheers Lummox, and thanks for the advice. Luckily my budget dosen't stretch to mega bucks for signs and I try and do as much research as possible if a sign comes up I don't recognise. Just waiting to finish work, as my wife says my latest addition has arrived by courier! (yet another champion spark plugs!) |
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Advertising Antiques Ltd
Guru Tat
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| 21 Oct 2010 12:15 PM |
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Its completely duff in everyway, not even from India.
They were made commissioned by some early automobilia dealers and never got out into the general public.
Look like Garnier manufacture with runs of dots down the back.
Cheers.
Al. |
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markbigears
Mad Keen Collector
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| 21 Oct 2010 01:09 PM |
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What I don't understand is that if you are spending the wrong side of £500 on a sign, as at least 2 have on this, you would have thought they would know if its a genuine one? |
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Jezmond
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| 21 Oct 2010 02:39 PM |
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Wise words from all. I looked at this and thought it was interesting but the more I looked the more I wondered.
If in doubt, dont pay owt or out as my late Dad never used to say.
I echo the sentiment about buying from trusted sources you may sometimes pay more but reputable dealers have their reputations to uphold and we move
in a small world.
There are still some shysters on Ebay well quite a few actually but sites like this do provide a blanket cover of knowledge from all of us.
And on that point, I'll get me coat.
Jez. |
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SteveTheTyke
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| 21 Oct 2010 02:47 PM |
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I think Al's comments has put minds at ease but frustratingly it has traces of enamel wash on the back which it not typical of later reproduced signs. |
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Advertising Antiques Ltd
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| 21 Oct 2010 08:15 PM |
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Could be paint or enamel Steve but everything else is so wrong it hurts.
These low run signs always catch a few people out.
Al. |
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