Robinson's "Navy Cut"
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22 Nov 2020 06:30 PM  

 This nice 2oz "Oriel" tobacco, manufactured by E. Robinson of Stockport. Based at St Petergate, Stockport, this company was founded in 1860, quite an old tobacco manufacturer. Illingworth acquired control in 1931 with Pattreiouex taken over in 1934 both linked to Gallaher Ltd. Some of their brands included "Kemo" - "Forget-me-Not" - "Songster" - "King Lud" etc etc. The "Oriel" brand was first introduced in 1897. You don't see much of this firms products.

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23 Nov 2020 01:46 PM  

 This is my other Robinson's "Terra-Cotta" flake introduced in 1905. With matchstriker on the bottom.

 

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24 Nov 2020 04:17 PM  

 Broadie has sent this picture of his "King Lud" tin and advertising sign, also advert from the "Tobacco" publication 1920.

 

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25 Nov 2020 04:36 PM  

 This  Mahogany 5 draw Cigarette Cabinet, displayed loose cigarettes which were then  sold by weight. The different brand-names are illustrated on the glass. This Robinsons cabinet is quite rare and sold by BBR last Nov 2019 and who often have these cabinets listed in the auctions they run several times a year. It is well worth following BBR auctions and they do a superb illustrated catalogue for each auction.The cabinets are ideal for collectors to display smaller items.

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26 Nov 2020 11:04 AM  
I totally agree with you Bacco - the BBR Auctions catalogues are superb - trouble is when you flick through back issues you constantly think why didn't I buy that!!!
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26 Nov 2020 01:01 PM  
Nice tins and Cabinet
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27 Nov 2020 08:57 PM  

WHOAH!

That Oriel tin is friggin' spectacular.

Amazing that it survived in such fine fettle, it looks gorgeous, and I love the typeface they use for O R I E L --- very modern for the time methinks.

Whenever I see these ancient old things I'm always curious as to what-in-the-hell the actual blend may have been, in some cases it is rather obvious, but stuff like this is a riddle.

Why did they choose the name Oriel?
What does that word even mean?

(Middle English, from Old French oriol, porch, from Medieval Latin oriolum)

Old French oriol ("gallery, corridor"), Late Latin oriolum ("portico, hall"), probably from Latin aureolus ("gilded"), applied to an apartment decorated with gilding.

The "gilded" roots makes me think perhaps it was a bright Virginia?

Always hard to say in such matters as info is scarce and blend descriptions were somewhat rare.

I didn't even know where Stockport is, down below Manchester I now know after a quick scan of the map --- regional tastes are another thing that I'm fascinated with, like how up North they usually preferred stronger more stout baccy, and each region seemingly had their own peculiarities, especially during that time period before the massive industry amalgamation.

Thank you bacco for posting up all the cool stuff you have, it has been a true blessing that you actively share such the rarities and has thusly enriched my life in seeing it as well as your textual descriptions that accompany the images, otherwise everything is lost in the rubbledust of forgotten faded history, so glad you give it life.

Ah!
Hold on,
did a quickie for robinson stockport tobacco before hitting the "submit" button and indeed my instincts seem to be correct regarding blend composition,
it appears that Oriel was a Gold Leaf Navy Cut.

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29 Nov 2020 11:51 AM  

 Hi philofumo - Lummox & batleycarr1,

Glad you like the postings on E Robinsons "Tobacco Manufacturer". I am sure there is a lot more of this firms items out there due to the length of time they were in buisness from 1860. Like you philofumo, I am also interested in the source/reason for brand names - some obvious and some vague.

This Robinsons "Snuff" enamel posted ,has some age to it and maybe a forum-member could date it and advise the best treatment to keep the rust at bay. It is small but heavy.

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