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11 Aug 2021 09:36 PM  

 

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11 Aug 2021 09:41 PM  
Does anyone know if this is a UK firm or perhaps American or Canadian?
I do realize that Atlanta is in the US - but I can find nothing about the firm?
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11 Aug 2021 11:48 PM  
Pretty sure its not English
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12 Aug 2021 03:19 PM  

 Hi Kjeld,

I agree with Lummox and maybe philofumo might identiy it in American/Canadian brands list. The only similar brand name recorded is "Crusader" manufactured by Adkins in 1915.

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12 Aug 2021 08:52 PM  

 Don't think it is USA/Canada either.

 
You could try and find the patent number, I've had good luck using this site but it can also be difficult:
 
 
Little to be found online, but from what I gathered it seems that you got the tin at ebay.de from a seller named alter_gruschd? Looking at all the other tins he sold were clearly German, so I'd guess that for the Crusade also.
 
Likely from the 30's?
 
Egyptomania was still a raging craze at that time I think and Oriental/Turkish ciggies were extremely popular as well.
 
Some of the most beautiful and elaborate tin art.
 
 
 
This one is from Switzerland:
 
 
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12 Aug 2021 09:25 PM  
Yes you are right philofumo - the seller of the tin on Ebay was German, and a serious collector.
However the tin does not look German to me and the company "Atlanta Tobacco Company LTD" is unknown to the Germans.
Anyhow Anglo-American names fell a bit out of fashion in Germany during WW I and only started to be popular again after WW II.
The motive is slightly childish, but not stupid. It relates a bit to this "Red Earl" from Mal-Kah. Comic Book Ivanhoe.
Yes there are some fantastic German tins (I am Danish:-))
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12 Aug 2021 10:51 PM  

 Love that Red Earl tin!

So bold and crisp of artwork design.

Somehow for some reason I kept looking, and discovered that Atlanta Tobacco Company was from Holland --- often shortened to Atlanta Tobacco Co A'dam.

So it appears to be a Dutch tin that you have.

On a side tangent, because you're from Denmark, one of my favorite tobacco-related books in the Danish language is this one:

Was lucky to find a copy.

Poul C. Olrik too of course was most excellent at documenting things.

Here is how he described Capstan Full:

(W.D. & H.O. Wills).

Også den hører til de tobakker, man så at sige er flasket op med siden sine første år som piberyger. Den spiller videre på temaet fra den gule og den blå. Bare med større kraft og fylde. Den er mørk som en sydlandsk senorita, stærk som hendes temperament (advarsel mod svedperler på panden!) blid og sødmefyldt som hendes læber - med et underfundigt kogleri i sin smag og duft. Det er en varm, drøj og stærk oplevelse. Godnatpiben til den, der kan lide at trække sig tilbage og nyde dagens sidste pibe i ophøjet ensomhed, fjernt fra hverdagens trivialiteter. På tankeflugt med de blå røgspiraler.

- - -  I can read Swedish pretty well and Danish is close but I am extremely slow with both, often reaching for the ordbok.

 

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13 Aug 2021 07:30 AM  

With thanks to Google translate (from Dänish):

 

It also belongs to the tobaccos you have,  so to speak, been bottled up with since your first years  as a pipe smoker. It continues to play on the theme from  the yellow and the blue. Only with greater power and fullness.  It is dark as a southern senorita, strong as her temperament  (warning against beads of sweat on her forehead!)  Gentle and sweet as her lips - with a subtle artichoke in its  taste and aroma. It is a warm, long and strong experience.  The goodnight pipe for those who like to retire and enjoy the  last pipe of the day in exalted solitude, far from the trivialities  of everyday life.  On the run from thought with the blue smoke spirals.
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13 Aug 2021 08:59 AM  
Thank you Philfumo
You made my day. Holland makes perfect sense!
I have a number of Dutch tins claiming they were produced in other places or without telling, they were Dutch. The same is the case with some Danish pipe tobacco. I suppose that an English or American brand name appealed more to a local clientele than a domestic one.
Olrik’s description of Capstan is a very poetic one and obviously written by a keen and experienced smoker.
Personally I gave up my pipe some years ago and only enjoy the occasional Havana. A few extra years might make it worthwhile giving up the spiraling blue smoke?
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12 Sep 2021 01:39 PM  
This is from China. It is the blue Crusader brand of Shanghai Huaming tobacco company. It was produced in the 1940s
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12 Sep 2021 01:49 PM  
Unfortunately, I have registered this forum for a short time, and I can't send pictures (I don't know how to send pictures). Otherwise, I can send a Crusader brand in Chinese to the forum
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13 Sep 2021 09:52 PM  

 Hello ybdsj

Adding pictures to the forum is not easy at all - I use an hour each time :-(
However, much knowledge and enthusiasm is in action here - so it is worth the effort, at least for me.
I have a feeling I might have bought a tin from you earlier on.
If you cannot send a picture here I would be most grateful if you could send it directly to me in Copenhagen
kbfh@tdcadsl.dk
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14 Sep 2021 08:41 PM  
Talking about "Chinese" tins. Does anyone know about this Godfrey Phillips Ltd tin called "Ball of Beuty"?
Is it English made for export?
Or is it Chinese or Japanese made on license?
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