Anyone know anything about these.

Looks like Edward VII, so I guess pre 1901?

I have seen at least one other version.

They all seem to use the same basic illustration, so perhaps the variations are just for a different number of cigs.

No makers name.

I suspect for the French market as the paper label on the larger one reads No7 bout doré.

 Hi Hilbert  I was told that Prince of Wales were made by three firms Lambert & Butler. T Riley & sons ltd and Elkan, Simmons & co   nice tins. Here are my two. cheers Broadie.

Hi Hilbert & Broadie,

I know that Cope's of Liverpool did a "Prince of Wales" cigarette, however their packets had just the "Prince of Wales Feathers". Need a bit more research on this one!!

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Thanks Broadie, very nice examples there. What else have you got in that cabinet?

Seems unusual that 3 companies would make the same brand and not distinguish themselves. Could it have been for a special occasion perhaps?

I was hoping you might weigh-in Bacco.

Look forward to anything you can find out.

Cheers

Hi hilbert,

I have found a reference to your "Prince of Wales" tin possibly being Dutch and produced for the 1902 Coronation. Can you see any reference to "Princess Alexandra"?? Broadie was correct, L&B did do a "Prince of Wales" but only in the form of a tobacco packet. I have not found any reference to the other companies mentioned.

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Oops.

Just looked at the innerlid with a linen tester. It really is too small to see unaided. It is more apparent in the image I uploaded strangely.

The 4 symbols say:

International Exhibition London 1902

King Edward VII • Queen Alexandra • Coronation 1902

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Exposition Internationale Paris 1902

The centre of the cross says:

International Exhibition • London 1902

Both references to London have some further text, in brackets, but is unreadable.

I was assuming that on becoming King he would no longer be the Prince of Wales.

I understand that Edward VII was particularly concerned with improving anglo/french relations.

Maybe they were commissioned specifically for the exhibitions, though I can't find a 1902 exhibition in either Paris or London. There was an Exposition in Paris in 1900 and a Franco-British Exhibition in London in 1908.

Hi Broadie,

You were quite right, there is a reference to "Prince of Wales" tobacco produced by Riley of Nottingham & Elkan Simons & Co, in 1894 Tobacco Yearbook.

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 Well, whatever you believe or not, the tin was produced by the German Zigarettenfabrik "Osmanié" in Dresden before w.w. I.

This is a period where you actually se English royalty on German tins. Your royal family comes from Germany and so did Victoria's beloved Albert - Edwards father - so nothing strange about - that before the great war!

Best

Kjeld

Thanks for that Kjeld.

So are these more common in Germany?

hilbert

It's a German tin, reasonably common in Europe, appearing frequently in Holland & Belgium for some reason. Great image though. I've seen two versions. A good example will set you back about £150. Not related to the UK packs or the American pocket tin