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13 Mar 2012 10:12 AM  

Just wondering what you lot thought of this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Retro-Adv...256ae96117

Looks too cheap to be genuine, what do you lot think?

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13 Mar 2012 10:13 AM  

70's

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13 Mar 2012 11:04 AM  
Cheers, well if it's still their next week I'll get it.
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15 Mar 2012 08:08 PM  

One more question, is their a reason why mirror advertising tends to be fairly cheap? Just today I saw a Coke mirror go for less than a tenner, I'm guessing it's fairly common?

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16 Mar 2012 11:07 AM  

Interesting question.....................originally mirrors were made by sign manufacturers like Forrest and Son or the Brilliant Sign company for clients such as large Breweries. These mirrors became very elaborate and employed many complex techniques such as acid etching, brilliant cutting, gold leafing and hand painting, they were made in low numbers, although large concerns such as Bass, probably had hundreds of large pub mirrors made over the years 

The high point of this glass artform was the Victorian and Edwardian periods and fortunately there are still some great examples to be seen, in situ in some old pubs, particularly in Soho and also in museums like Beamish, which has some terrific examples.

These mirrors are very, very rare and are often very large and heavy with ornate mahogany frames and are not cheap to buy when they are (rarely) available. 

Many cheaper, smaller mirrors were made to go into shops, Frys, Players and Cadburys, amongst many others, used smaller mirrors to advertise, at the point of sale, all the way through to the sixties. These are very sought after and can sometimes be seen on Ebay or at collectors fairs, particularly BBR auctions.

In the late sixties and early seventies, Victorian advertising became fashionable, first in swinging London antique shops like Trad and Dodo and reproductions stared to be made. Dodo became a manufacturer of enamel signs and many companies started screen printing reproduction advertising mirrors. They became a craze and repro mirrors could be bought everywhere, cheaply, in gift shops and for sale on market stalls. These mirrors are still made today for pubs and are largely the ones you see on EBay. They are often described as vintage and were mainly made in the 70's, some of them were quite good but can not compare to the great mirrors of an earlier age. 

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16 Mar 2012 12:22 PM  

 A good example

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16 Mar 2012 12:42 PM  

Indeed!

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16 Mar 2012 02:12 PM  
Thank you for the great reply. Do this mean that these mirrors are generally shunned by collectors?
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16 Mar 2012 04:02 PM  

I would say there are only a few collectors specializing in old mirrors although I know of many collectors of old advertising who have one or two choice examples. Certainly there are fewer collectors of old mirrors than enamel signs

I think there are many collectors of Breweriana who have modern mirrors, in fact if you search for mirrors in Breweriana on EBay you will see there are loads of 70's mirrors available at a reasonable price, although I wouldn't trust a mirror in the post. I think you can also often see them for sale cheap at bootfairs.

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16 Mar 2012 07:15 PM  
Thanks for the information, well I'm already bidding on a couple and now I know why I'm probably not going to be outbid. I suppose their older than me so they'll do until I can afford some genuine signage.

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18 Mar 2012 08:20 PM  
Good news everyone, I was outbid. Didn't want to touch reproductions when I decided to start collecting but stupidly bid on them without getting information on them so I'm happy I have more money to spend on tins next week.
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18 Mar 2012 11:06 PM  
Yep

Mirrors are popular and sell well if original

Repros are repros leave well alone !!
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