Got these last week off Ebay and they have cleaned up a treat...The bloke selling has a shed full of so called "crap"...LOL,,,Sorry if ive offended anyone by doing this who had Bids on the enamels but from what i can gather every ones at it??

Good on ya for having the bottle to admit it.  Everyone is at it, and it'll probably get worse in the future.  With so much genuine crap on ebay, anything decent is attracting an immediate audience.  Let's face it ebay's gone to the dogs.  I don't think I've bought anything off of the site in the last couple of months of any significance, and got outbid on a couple of things which went to ridiculous prices. 

Hello to evryone.

You blokes are either nuts or very game. I think poaching stuff sucks personally. I have missed a lot of signs because I genuinely thought that an auction is just that a bloody auction and should run its course. Frankly you blokes who entice sellers to sell before the finish of an auctionare basically stealing from the seller.

A lot of newcomers to eBay are not aware of what they have and will sell something way under its value simply because they don't know what its worth and my experience on eBay is that an item can go from $100 with a minute to go to $1000 and all sellers should be made to leave the item there until it closes. Adtmitting to being underhanded is simply a low act and ebay should not allow auctions to finish early. In no other auction house that exists can you close the bidding on an item half way through a sale and rightly so.

Next thing you lot will be saying it is alright to pinch things before a sale starts at clearing sales. I was at a sale on the weekend and several bottles were stolen before the auction that were valued at $1000 in total. That what this collecting thing has come to it seems. It is OK to pinch things. Its OK to poach things and its OK to even admit to being an underhanded, shifty so and so. As far as I'm concerned its not eBay that's gone to the dogs its the morals and behaviour of those that are getting things by deception. If you can't get something by fair means then leave it there. No wonder the world is rooted.

Regards,

Rustycutters

To be honest Rustycutters the bloke who i "bought" the signs off was over the moon with the price i offered him plus he didnt have to go to the trouble of wrapping them up to post...Lets face it,,if you put a sign on Ebay and in the back of your mind you think at the very best it going to make £500 tops and out of the blue with 3days left to go you get a phone call off a bloke offering £3000 for the enamel,,,wot would you do???  Sorry,,what would anyone do?? Flog it an move on..Theres nearly 500 views on this thread and only 1 person seams upset..Like i said...everyones bang at it..

Perhaps the reason for the lack of posts against this is that people don't want to offend other Forum members, by making negative comments, rather than that they support 'poaching'!

I feel ebay is at fault for making it possible for this to happen. Once an item is listed, it should be there to the the end of the auction.

The practice is rife, sadly, and I have been disappointed countless times by people 'poaching' quality items, and more often than not, the seller loses out! I have approached Ebay about this practice, and they pretend it doesn't happen, but argue it's up to the seller to end the listing early, if they like!

If there's an item I like, I now e-mail the seller, and ask them to confirm that they will not end the auction early to a cash offer, and see what I get back!

Sign seeker, I do exactly what you do when there is a sign I really want to bid on. I contact the seller and tell them that I am very keen, if they get any offers and are considering accepting them to give me a chance to match or beat the offer. There are sellers I believe that are always looking to take an offer, their auctions will never go the distance, so if you want it, you have to play the game. I make the contact so they know that I will be bidding at some point, what happens from there is in their hands, if they say they want to let the auction run it's course, I will bid on it, if they say they don't want to take a chance and may be tempted by an offer ????

Gordo

Well done Sign Seeker.

That is my feeling exactly. I have also contacted ebay and they couldn't give a rat's bum which is simply wrong. There should be no way that an auction doers not run it's full course. I have sold heaps of things in auction rooms, at clearing sales and on eBay and once I list the item that is it. It stays listed until the finish.

I have had offers to buy things once they are listed and I couldn't give a stuff if someone offers me good money before the close because anyone with half a modicum of brains knows that an item can triple and even quadruple in price in the last 10 seconds of the listing. The only reason offers get made is some shifty dealer knows that they can "pinch" the item off an unsuspecting seller. They aren't doing it as a benevolent act towards the seller but instead it is simply a chance to get something cheaply.  I once sold a shearing handpiece on eBay that went from $80 most of the week and sold for $1175 in the last two minutes. Imagine if I'd let it go to offers for $500.

This bullshjit about "everyone's doing" it does not justify doing it.  Heaps of people take drugs and society is far more violent than it used to be so does that mean we can all just join the party? What is happening is wrong and there is no way under the sun it should be allowed and even worse is skiting about it.

Gordo, if you don't want me comparing stealing with pinching things from auction sellers my suggestion to you is bid in the last few seconds and take your chances like everyone else with any moral fibre. An auction is just that, an auction. I would never blame a seller because they are inexperienced whilst there are heaps of dodgy dealers and door knockiers who have years of practice at getting things from the unsuspecting. I would ask to anyone who gets things by underhanded means. Are you one of those?

Regards,

Rustycutters

Sorry I didn't realise my moral compass is obviously so far off.

Hopefully I can aspire to the lofty heights of morality others have obviously reached.

Gordo

 

Wow, prietty heavy shit every one's on to. I agree for the yes & no in this conversation. I am on the good person side, where I have never contacted a seller to end an auction early with a "buy it now" great price. I am a buyer who looks, ponders & hits "hard" at the end if I want the item. I often get pissed off when there is a item that I put in my " watch" list & then it dissapears a few day later !!

I agree - we all look after no 1, but, but, but ???