Mick G
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| 02 May 2022 01:36 AM |
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Fella's are you sure the two round ones aren't cropped / cut outs? |
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Hoarder
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| 02 May 2022 07:51 AM |
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100% not cropped cut outs Mick, the back of mine has the drips running from the edges into the centre, and look at the thin yellow border what other hero sign has that background, there is enamel in two of the holes. As far as I am aware there is no other Hero sign with the Imperial Enamel makers mark? other than that eluded to by Banjo on page 3 above, can anybody confirm makers name?. |
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batleycarr1
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| 02 May 2022 11:44 AM |
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Mine is the same Hoarder, with the pattern of drips running from the edges at the back and Mick G - I have seen and compared mine to cut outs and both the fronts and backs were different! As you know the roundel on the large Players is against a white background and these have a yellow edge, also the look of Hero is different to the cutouts I have seen in the past. These original Players roundels are rare survivors and were used on the early omnibuses circular stairwells. Like Hoarders mine is also 17 inches across and has the fixing holes in the same places. |
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Hoarder
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| 03 May 2022 11:32 AM |
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Posted By banjo boy on 29 Dec 2017 05:29 PM
Makers mark just about visible
Come on Banjo Boy what was the makers name? |
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banjo boy
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| 03 May 2022 09:41 PM |
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Ok heres my logic🤣...the 12inc by 12inc pictured signs have the Reg trade mark outside the lifebelt..The picture of the one i posted that went through auction hasnt got trade mark underneath,,its inside..Do you not agree?? The sign also looks to have some sort of wrighting to its bottom right hand side..Yes,,very faint i agree..The 2 round ones posted have makers mark inside lifebelt..."so" it Just be another Hero sign made by Imp B/ham..Plz hoarder let me see Your thoughts as i would find it very interesting |
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banjo boy
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| 03 May 2022 09:57 PM |
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Whatever the out come on this sign,,lets just keep collecting Ye!!👍 |
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Hoarder
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| 03 May 2022 10:57 PM |
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Posted By banjo boy on 03 May 2022 09:41 PM
Ok heres my logic🤣...the 12inc by 12inc pictured signs have the Reg trade mark outside the lifebelt..The picture of the one i posted that went through auction hasnt got trade mark underneath,,its inside..Do you not agree?? The sign also looks to have some sort of wrighting to its bottom right hand side..Yes,,very faint i agree..The 2 round ones posted have makers mark inside lifebelt..."so" it Just be another Hero sign made by Imp B/ham..Plz hoarder let me see Your thoughts as i would find it very interesting
Yes agree with that, just found it rather strange that a makers name would be inserted within the curtilage of the design rather than outside on the borders edge.This got me thinking that maybe it could be reference to the Imperial Tobacco Co rather than the Imperial Enamel Co?.
Still rearching but the evidence suggest in favour of it being Imperial Enamel as they were based in Birmingham in1896 ( dont know when they were formed ) and Imperial Tobacco (formed in 1901) had HQ in Bristol in 1904.
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Hoarder
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| 04 May 2022 08:51 AM |
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Thats a little Gem!, Banjo you must have deep pockets. |
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Hoarder
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| 04 May 2022 08:54 AM |
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Ok someone should be able to help with this. What is the makers mark bottom right?
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Deegee
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| 04 May 2022 08:55 AM |
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If there is a get together in the afternoon after the summer BBR fair (as in pre-pandemic years) perhaps, Richard ,you could bring along your round Hero sign and I'll bring the square one. It'll be good to see them together. And also to get opinions on whether mine is faded. |
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hinkslamps
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| 04 May 2022 10:41 AM |
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I think it says Imperial Enamel co Ltd |
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batleycarr1
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| 04 May 2022 12:54 PM |
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Hi Deegee
Can you email me at richardburn01@gmail.com
Cheers Richard |
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Hoarder
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| 04 May 2022 02:23 PM |
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"I think it says Imperial Enamel co Ltd" Great, thanks Hinks.
One last question has anybody got any history on Imperial Enamel? date of incorporation etc, much appreciated. |
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trixon telstar
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| 04 May 2022 08:35 PM |
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I had a big turquoise Players the same years ago , and it was made by Patent Enamel , just to confuse things ,lol. |
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banjo boy
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| 05 May 2022 12:19 PM |
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I used to own a v.large Yellow Hero sign made by Franco signs😵 |
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